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		<title>By: indexben</title>
		<link>http://blog.ben.vc/?p=322&#038;cpage=1#comment-35</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s the my first blog comment from an iPod touch! thanks</description>
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		<title>By: James Sherwin-Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.ben.vc/?p=322&#038;cpage=1#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sherwin-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also agree that the next decade will see these inhibitors as&lt;br&gt;you mention above become increasing marginal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 1, the emergence of the apps/widgets model served over saas will&lt;br&gt;overcome this. Thanks to Apple&#039;s big push into this space (cf their inescapable&lt;br&gt;&quot;there&#039;s an app for that&quot; campaign), consumer awareness has increased&lt;br&gt;massively, and established players have had to work fast to keep up&lt;br&gt;(cf. RIMs announcement re the BlackBerry AppWorld at last years sxsw).&lt;br&gt;With another open platform in the form of Android hitting the&lt;br&gt;mainstream, this will put further pressure on Apple&#039;s closed AppStore&lt;br&gt;platform, and add some much needed competition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 2, the key remains to deliver your app as a browser based session&lt;br&gt;if you can, that way you negate some of the issues you raise here. But&lt;br&gt;even so we&#039;ve seen significant consolidation in the device market with&lt;br&gt;Symbian and Windows ME and now Android. Outside those three, you will&lt;br&gt;have the BlackBerry OS and the Apple OS, but those 5 will take you&lt;br&gt;above 95pc market share I&#039;d wager. The key point here is that its not&lt;br&gt;just first adopters who change their phone every 12 months, pretty&lt;br&gt;much everyone does. But these mass market users probably hold on to&lt;br&gt;their desktop or laptop for 36 months or so, which means change and&lt;br&gt;adoption cycles are much faster in mobile. So if I was a developer&lt;br&gt;today, I&#039;d probably only bother coding for apple, blackberry and&lt;br&gt;android (I wonder if google were tempted to name it after a fruit&lt;br&gt;instead :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 and 4 strike me as entirely related to one thing, bandwith.  There&#039;s&lt;br&gt;little to no point having a fantastic device if you can&#039;t get the&lt;br&gt;media on an off it easily - my poor analogy would be there&#039;s no point&lt;br&gt;having a high spec laptop if the only input/output method is via&lt;br&gt;floppy disc. I&#039;d be fascinated to see the upgrade stats from iPhone&lt;br&gt;2.5G to 3G users, but my guess is that most have done it as soon as it&lt;br&gt;was available and economic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the key turning point will be the growing adoption of&lt;br&gt;connecting your mobile device to a WiFi base station when at work or&lt;br&gt;home (or even potentially on the go, with taxis, trains, planes and&lt;br&gt;hotels all offering WiFi now). In my opinion it will be this&lt;br&gt;proliferation of &quot;wirefree&quot; Internet that will really grease the&lt;br&gt;wheels. By wirefree, I mean not only going wireless, but more&lt;br&gt;importantly, that this is being offered for free, with only minor log in&lt;br&gt;requirements, which means it is actually usable to the masses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As users become accustomed to the fact that they can connect their&lt;br&gt;devices at broadband speeds, leapfrogging 3, 3.5 and 4G connections&lt;br&gt;that are offered by the mobile network operators, then the full&lt;br&gt;potential of having a smart phone in your pocket will be realised.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With Skype (send and receive calls), email (send and receive text&lt;br&gt;messages and attachments) and Google voice (transcribing any voicemail&lt;br&gt;I receive to text) running over WiFi everywhere I go on my iPod touch, enabled&lt;br&gt;with Push technology (aka notifications) - remind me again why I would&lt;br&gt;even need a sim card, let alone a contract with a mobile network&lt;br&gt;operator?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sent from my iPod touch over hotel wirefree in Mumbai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also agree that the next decade will see these inhibitors as<br />you mention above become increasing marginal.</p>
<p>On 1, the emergence of the apps/widgets model served over saas will<br />overcome this. Thanks to Apple&#39;s big push into this space (cf their inescapable<br />&#8220;there&#39;s an app for that&#8221; campaign), consumer awareness has increased<br />massively, and established players have had to work fast to keep up<br />(cf. RIMs announcement re the BlackBerry AppWorld at last years sxsw).<br />With another open platform in the form of Android hitting the<br />mainstream, this will put further pressure on Apple&#39;s closed AppStore<br />platform, and add some much needed competition.</p>
<p>On 2, the key remains to deliver your app as a browser based session<br />if you can, that way you negate some of the issues you raise here. But<br />even so we&#39;ve seen significant consolidation in the device market with<br />Symbian and Windows ME and now Android. Outside those three, you will<br />have the BlackBerry OS and the Apple OS, but those 5 will take you<br />above 95pc market share I&#39;d wager. The key point here is that its not<br />just first adopters who change their phone every 12 months, pretty<br />much everyone does. But these mass market users probably hold on to<br />their desktop or laptop for 36 months or so, which means change and<br />adoption cycles are much faster in mobile. So if I was a developer<br />today, I&#39;d probably only bother coding for apple, blackberry and<br />android (I wonder if google were tempted to name it after a fruit<br />instead <img src='http://blog.ben.vc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>3 and 4 strike me as entirely related to one thing, bandwith.  There&#39;s<br />little to no point having a fantastic device if you can&#39;t get the<br />media on an off it easily &#8211; my poor analogy would be there&#39;s no point<br />having a high spec laptop if the only input/output method is via<br />floppy disc. I&#39;d be fascinated to see the upgrade stats from iPhone<br />2.5G to 3G users, but my guess is that most have done it as soon as it<br />was available and economic.</p>
<p>I think the key turning point will be the growing adoption of<br />connecting your mobile device to a WiFi base station when at work or<br />home (or even potentially on the go, with taxis, trains, planes and<br />hotels all offering WiFi now). In my opinion it will be this<br />proliferation of &#8220;wirefree&#8221; Internet that will really grease the<br />wheels. By wirefree, I mean not only going wireless, but more<br />importantly, that this is being offered for free, with only minor log in<br />requirements, which means it is actually usable to the masses.</p>
<p>As users become accustomed to the fact that they can connect their<br />devices at broadband speeds, leapfrogging 3, 3.5 and 4G connections<br />that are offered by the mobile network operators, then the full<br />potential of having a smart phone in your pocket will be realised.</p>
<p>With Skype (send and receive calls), email (send and receive text<br />messages and attachments) and Google voice (transcribing any voicemail<br />I receive to text) running over WiFi everywhere I go on my iPod touch, enabled<br />with Push technology (aka notifications) &#8211; remind me again why I would<br />even need a sim card, let alone a contract with a mobile network<br />operator?</p>
<p>Sent from my iPod touch over hotel wirefree in Mumbai.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Ben.vc » Blog Archive » The mobile black hole – can VC finally escape? -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Chris Osborne, David Langer, Index Ventures, Vincent Thome, aadil and others. aadil said: RT @indexben: New post on http://www.ben.vc with a catchy title - &quot;The mobile black hole...&quot; - http://bit.ly/7uwa1I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: indexben</title>
		<link>http://blog.ben.vc/?p=322&#038;cpage=1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>indexben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree Patrice - Europe used to be ahead of US in the mobile area, but last few years have totally changed the picture. All the best and thanks for yr comment. Have a great 2010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree Patrice &#8211; Europe used to be ahead of US in the mobile area, but last few years have totally changed the picture. All the best and thanks for yr comment. Have a great 2010</p>
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		<title>By: Patrice Peyret</title>
		<link>http://blog.ben.vc/?p=322&#038;cpage=1#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrice Peyret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All true. But I would like to add that several impediments faced by many VCs w.r.t. mobile have been of their own making:&lt;br&gt;- lack of international savvy: unlike with the Internet, mobile is not the same model everywhere. I bet many US-based VCs would still be surprised today to hear that consumers in other parts of the world do not pay for receiving mobile calls or messages...&lt;br&gt;- lack of cultural understanding: how many VCs have I heard lecturing me about how SMS / texting would never make it in the US because &quot;we are an email country&quot;?&lt;br&gt;- lack of interest for consumer-facing ventures during the earlier industry years before Facebook/ Google. How many millions sunk in &quot;mobilizing the enterprise&quot; when it was obvious that most employees walk into the office every morning with their own cell phones, not cellphones imposed on them by their CTO....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The next billion mobile subscribers will not be in the developed / Western world, so VCs also need to be prepared to dust off their passports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All true. But I would like to add that several impediments faced by many VCs w.r.t. mobile have been of their own making:<br />- lack of international savvy: unlike with the Internet, mobile is not the same model everywhere. I bet many US-based VCs would still be surprised today to hear that consumers in other parts of the world do not pay for receiving mobile calls or messages&#8230;<br />- lack of cultural understanding: how many VCs have I heard lecturing me about how SMS / texting would never make it in the US because &#8220;we are an email country&#8221;?<br />- lack of interest for consumer-facing ventures during the earlier industry years before Facebook/ Google. How many millions sunk in &#8220;mobilizing the enterprise&#8221; when it was obvious that most employees walk into the office every morning with their own cell phones, not cellphones imposed on them by their CTO&#8230;.</p>
<p>The next billion mobile subscribers will not be in the developed / Western world, so VCs also need to be prepared to dust off their passports.</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Start-Up: Finally, Detroit Is Electric &#124; Finance Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Daily Start-Up: Finally, Detroit Is Electric &#124; Finance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Waiting &#8211; Ben Holmes, a partner at Index Ventures, sums up why &#8220;mobile (mostly) sucked for so long for VC.&#8221; He believes, though, that venture capitalists are poised to escape this &#8220;mobile black [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Waiting &#8211; Ben Holmes, a partner at Index Ventures, sums up why &#8220;mobile (mostly) sucked for so long for VC.&#8221; He believes, though, that venture capitalists are poised to escape this &#8220;mobile black [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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